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THURSDAY, JULY 15, 2004                                                                      ITEM OF INTEREST
Joseph M. Myers Testifies U.S. Cooperation with Saudi Arabia on Combating Terror Financing

 
EDITOR'S NOTE:

Joseph M. Myers was called to testify before the U.S. Senate Committee on Finance to address the U.S. Treasury Department's role in combating terrorist financing.  Mr. Myers also addressed the importance of continued U.S. cooperation with Saudi Arabia in combating terrorist financing.  

 
Joseph M. Myers Testifies U.S. Cooperation with Saudi Arabia on Combating Terror Financing
Statement of Joseph M. Myers Counsel, Katten Muchin Zavis Rosenman* before the United States Senate Committee on Finance Hearing on the Treasury Department and Terrorism Financing and the Nominations of Stuart Levey and Juan Zarate

May 19, 2004 

[The following are excerpts from Mr. Myer's remarks.]

Background

Prior to September 11, 2001, there was little political will to take aggressive enforcement steps against domestic fundraising for terrorism, which in many cases was difficult to distinguish from First Amendment protected freedoms of speech and religion. Similarly, few resources were devoted to assessing global terror fundraising networks; fewer still were directed to doing something about them.

After 9/ 11, eyes and ears were opened. At Treasury, Secretary O'Neill's initial skepticism about money laundering and terrorist financing control gave way to enthusiastic support and creative leadership. The FBI's white-collar investigators and the CIA's financial analysts were integrated into their respective counter-terrorism divisions and quickly proved their value both to the backward looking 9/ 11 investigation and to preventing attacks. Customs investigators turned their formidable financial investigative resources to sanctions busters, currency smugglers, and illegal money remitters. The Justice Department began using the terrorist financing statutes to take terror cells off the streets before they had a chance to strike.

Our diplomats helped persuade and assist countries around the world to improve their own capacities to deal forcefully with supporters of terrorism. This interagency work was formalized by the creation of a policy coordination committee (PCC) under the NSC structure.

The PCC has made great strides in focusing our limited resources on the most important issues and tasks, and ensuring methodical, thorough all-source intelligence analysis of strategic financial targets. The agencies have worked to balance in particular cases competing interests in collecting intelligence, pursuing criminal investigations, imposing sanctions, and empowering our allies to take the initiative to address problems posed by their own citizenry and institutions.

Several important objectives have been achieved. Most important, al Qaida's ability to raise and move funds with impunity has been severely diminished. This is not to say that the organization has been crippled, I'm sorry to say. But the government's efforts have made a real impact on the organization's financial picture, and it is a weaker organization as a result. Much of our impact has been through deterrence -- i. e., donors are either afraid to support, or repulsed at the thought of supporting, an organization whose goal is to slaughter innocent civilians.

There continues to be a relatively high level of international support for the UN sanctions regime against al Qaida and its affiliates. 

Key agencies in our government have grown accustomed to working with one another in new ways, and have become better at accommodating one another's interests. The CIA and the FBI, in particular, cooperate closely up and down the chain of command, on a tactical and strategic level.

The White House leads a regular, high level, and wide ranging dialogue with Saudi Arabia on financing and ideological support of extremists. The Saudis are now engaged in a multi-faceted campaign against terrorism that seeks to overthrow their regime, and their cooperation with the U.S. is extensive.

The Europeans now formally recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization, and the Saudis have withdrawn official support for its activities.

Challenges

The government's counter-terrorist financing infrastructure is still in its infancy, and needs to be nurtured. Effectively performing all of the functions involved in combating terrorist financing requires an orchestrated, interdisciplinary, international effort. It is difficult, sensitive, and labor-intensive. It requires specialized investigators, cutting-edge technology, intensive diplomatic engagement, and cooperation from the private sector.

5. We cannot go it alone. One of the standard "talking points" for senior officials discussing counter-terrorism generally, or terrorist financing specifically, is to note the importance of allies, and international cooperation. One of my favorite, often repeated lines, illustrates the necessity for cooperation in gaining access to records from foreign financial institutions by invoking the unworkable absurdity of the alternative -- bombing a foreign bank. But I am concerned that these talking points are too often mere lip service, and that we don't realize how destructive our other, often contradictory words and actions can be in securing effective cooperation.

The political posturing on Saudi Arabia is a good example of the importance of careful language to maintaining alliances. The Saudis are regularly portrayed as either our worst enemies or our best, most loyal and steadfast allies. The reality in my limited experience is that our relationship with the Saudis has much in common with our other bilateral relationships: it is strategically important, and complex, and we seek to maximize areas where our interests overlap, while we minimize conflict in order to achieve as many of our common goals as possible. The relationship is in the spotlight for good reason: we face a common deadly enemy in al Qaida, and neither of us anticipated how serious an enemy it would be. But the Saudis are fighting it with us, on many levels, including by pursuing a reform agenda inside the Kingdom. Whether they have taken the right steps, or taken them quickly enough, is a subject about which reasonable people can reasonably disagree. But there is no reasonable option other than to work with Saudi Arabia to fight al Qaida, and to support the Saudis' reform agenda in the process.

Click here to read the full text of Mr. Myer's testimony in PDF format.


*The views expressed in this testimony are the personal views of Mr. Myers. They do not necessarily reflect the views of the law firm of Katten Muchin Zavis Rosenman.

ABOUT THE SPEAKER

Joseph M. (Jody) Myers (Photo courtesy of Katten Muchin Zavis Rosenman)Joseph M. (Jody) Myers joined Katten Muchin Zavis Rosenman in early 2004 as Counsel, focusing on anti-money laundering regulatory and compliance issues, and advising clients on international trade and sanctions issues, USA Patriot Act issues, corporate governance, white-collar crime, and fraud prevention matters.

Prior to joining the Firm, Mr. Myers was with the National Security Council (NSC), where he held the position of Director, International Financial Affairs in the Office of Combating Terrorism.   He was the principal NSC director responsible for coordinating the financial front of the U.S. Government's war on terrorism, taking over the newly-created position a week after 9/11.  He played a key role in counter-terrorism efforts, developing sections of the USA Patriot Act, coordinating interagency programs to investigate and prosecute terrorist financing worldwide, and imposing sanctions against terrorist supporters under the Treasury Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) and applicable UN Security Council Resolutions.  Mr. Myers also was intimately involved in the recovery of assets from the former Iraqi regime, as well as the development and implementation of economic sanctions, and policies and programs to combat corruption, organized crime, and drug trafficking. 

Prior to his work at the NSC, Mr. Myers was Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary (Enforcement Policy) at the Treasury Department, where, among other things, he developed the National Money Laundering Strategy and led the U.S. delegation to the 29 nation Financial Action Task Force on money laundering (FATF).   Mr. Myers led the expansion of FATF's membership, as well as the FATF's work to identify so-called non-cooperative countries and territories.  He played a central role in intensive bilateral and multilateral negotiations to ensure the reform of anti-money laundering regimes in numerous countries, including the Cayman Islands, Colombia, Israel, Liechtenstein, Panama, and Russia.  

Mr. Myers also worked for seven years at the Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), where he was assistant director for international programs and deputy chief counsel.   He played a key role in writing and administering regulations issued pursuant to the Bank Secrecy Act, including the ground-breaking suspicious activity reporting rules for banks and the novel application of Treasury's authority to impose geographic targeting orders to require money remitters to comply with special reporting obligations.  He also was involved in drafting and negotiating FinCEN's basic information sharing agreements with federal and state law enforcement and regulatory agencies, and in establishing the international Egmont Group of financial intelligence units and negotiating protocols for international exchange of sensitive financial information.  Before working for the government, Mr. Myers practiced commercial litigation in New York City for five years. 

He received his bachelor's from Yale College in 1982 and his J.D. from Vanderbilt University Law School in 1987.  He is admitted to practice in New York and in the U.S. District Court, Southern and Eastern Districts. 

Source:  Katten Muchin Zavis Rosenman


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