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  HRH Prince Saud al-Faisal 

Minister of Foreign Affairs

 

Discusses President Chirac
Visit, Hamas and Regional Developments
March 6, 2006, Riyadh

Foreign Minister HRH Prince Sa'ud al-Faisal has said that French President Jacques Chirac's visit to the kingdom was successful and stressed that it will have a great impact on relations between the two countries.

His Highness indicated in a news conference held yesterday in Riyadh with representatives of the French media who accompanied His Excellency the French president on his visit to the kingdom that the talks President Jacques Chirac held with the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdallah Bin-Abd-al-Aziz Al Sa'ud touched upon bilateral issues and international developments with particular regard to the Palestinian issue, the situation in Lebanon and Iraq as well as the Iran question. His Highness pointed out that the two leaders had very close if not totally identical views on most of the issues they discussed.

His Highness stressed that the kingdom and France emphasized regional and international peace and stability, and resorting to diplomacy in all conflicts. His Highness indicated that the two countries have decided to cooperate in an effort to find the best ways to have a positive impact on the issues facing the region.

His Highness announced the restructuring of the government quarters responsible for the follow-up of strategic ties between the two countries to focus on implementation and on continuous early contacts between officials within this framework. His Highness said he believes that this will have a positive effect on ties between the two countries.

His Highness the foreign minister started his meeting with the press by welcoming all of them. He said: We are pleased to see so many of you who accompanied the president here to witness the welcome he was given and the true feelings displayed in welcoming His Excellency. I believe that this reflects in a big way the admiration the people of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have for His Excellency and the friendship they have for France and the French people by all standards. The visit was very successful. Undoubtedly, it will have a great impact on relations between our two countries, as much as the success his previous visit had in entrenching strategic partnership between the two countries and boosting Saudi economy, particularly in the activities of the private sector between the two countries. I believe that this visit will promote these ties even further.

We have restructured the government quarters responsible for the follow-up of strategic ties between the two countries to focus on implementation and continuous early contacts between the officials in this framework. This will have, I believe, a positive impact on ties between the two countries.

His Excellency the president and the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques had the opportunity to talk at this high level. I do not know how many hours they spent talking to each other. They spent a long time with each other, which means that they touched upon all the issues of the region, in addition to bilateral issues. In all the issues they dealt with, they held very close if not totally identical views, particularly with regard to the Palestinian issue, the situation in Lebanon and the situation in Iraq. The Iran issue was also discussed and there was unanimity in the views expressed, as His Excellency said when he addressed the Shura Council.

Issues have been broached in detail, and there was a focus on peace, international and regional stability, as well as resorting to diplomacy to resolve conflicts. The two countries decided to cooperate in an effort to find ways to have a positive impact on the issues facing the region here. Generally speaking, these are the issues that were discussed. However, I would like this time to express my appreciation for your presence here. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has suffered a lot from distortion of the truth by the media. I believe that this has been happening because of the deficit in contacts between us. Maybe we made a mistake by not giving more opportunities to the media to visit the country. However, this will change and we hope that your visits will not be limited to state visits only, and that you will be coming to represent your newspapers and your TV channels, and you will always be welcome.

Hamas

In reply to a question about the presence of a plan or a programme in the talks between President Chirac and Saudi officials about including Hamas in negotiations, his highness the foreign minister said: Yes, naturally this have been discussed in detail because of the two countries' great mutual interest in following up the oldest conflict in the world. Efforts are being exerted to find a solution. This is one of the most important concerns for both leaders.

Elections took place. The Palestinians were urged by the international community to hold these elections, and we told everybody that no-one could predict the outcome of these elections. In other words, if you want to hold elections whose outcome you can predict then there is no need to hold them. But the elections did take place, and they were indeed open and fair, and the outcome was Hamas's clear victory. Our advice was always to give a chance to the new government to express itself, to discuss its options and decide what approach to take before prejudging it in what we say or what we plan to do.

His Highness further said that everybody knows that when governments are formed following elections, they do not necessarily stick to what they say during the election campaign. What matters is what they say after the government is formed and what they will do. This is why neither France nor Saudi will prejudge them. This is what we have decided. We will wait and see what Hamas will do. We believe that the maximum we hope for is that they will express the aspirations of the Palestinian people. There is no crystal ball that will give us an idea of what will happen. However, we believe that as a government they will behave responsibly in representing the interests of the Palestinian people. We have not met them yet, but Hamas will be paying a visit to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in the next few days.

Iraq

Regarding the kingdom and France's position about Iraq, his highness said: Elections have taken place in Iraq. It has a parliament, a constitution and the government will be formed. Therefore, it is difficult for me to talk about a Saudi and French effort before we can see the government programme. As for the position of the two countries with regard to Iraq, we would like to guarantee the unity, territorial integrity and prosperity of the country. We hope that this will happen. We also hope to see an end to the sectarian problem faced by Iraq. We can see a united Iraq living in harmony and peace with its neighbours, and a fair distribution of riches of this wealthy country among its citizens. We also want to see it play the role we have been missing for many long years as a stability factor. This is what we hope to see.

Lebanon, Syria

In reply to a question about Lebanon and the extent of the proximity of views between the kingdom and France regarding the current crisis, whether there is any intention to revive the efforts, and whether there is Arab mediation, his highness said that our views about Lebanon are very close. Both France and the kingdom have one single interest in their minds, which is to see the stability, prosperity and independence of Lebanon. This is what we hope, and God knows that we have no other hope but the prompt success of this policy. We only want peace and stability for this country, and we hope that the meetings being held by the Lebanese leaders' committee will achieve the aspired results, and will bring solidarity. We would be most happy if that took place.

As for initiatives, the matter depends on Lebanon. Should Lebanon ask for or need any type of assistance, I am sure that the two countries will respond. But, as long as they are dealing with the issue by themselves, we are very happy that they are doing so, and we very much hope that they will succeed.

In reply to a question about Lebanese-Syrian ties, and whether there is an effort to convince the Syrian president to have equal relations with Lebanon because the French really want to see the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, as the biggest country in the region, exert efforts to this effect, his highness said: We hope to see healthy relations between Syria and Lebanon. That is what we were hoping and what we are working for, and I believe that both countries are interested in ties based on sound foundations. This is the only logical thing, because the lack of stability in one country can reflect on the stability of the other country. This is the nature of the history and geography of the region. I believe that the two countries should do the necessary to achieve that if they want to have healthy relations between them for the benefit of the two countries and their two peoples.

There is no need to say that the content of this dialogue should be about the way to achieve these ties, as this depends on both countries. There are many people who are blaming left, right and centre in an attempt to destabilize the other party, but we believe that the stability of each country is important for the other. If there are problems faced by the one country, this does not mean that the other country is the cause. Some of these problems are local, and we cannot blame the other party for everything. This is our hope. We are walking a tightrope, and this is a critical time for Lebanon. We think that the process initiated by the leaders should be given a chance without any other influences on it. The process of dealing with the political crisis is the best for all of us.

"Strategic partnership"

In reply to a question about the way to restructure the government circles responsible for strategic partnership between the two countries [the kingdom and France], His Highness said that with regard to restructuring - and here I do not want to blame the two foreign ministers for this - the two foreign ministers were in charge of the committee which was supposed to do the follow-up, and that, unfortunately, they are busy, at least His Excellency the French foreign minister is, as I am not as busy as him. He has got so many things to do, more than myself. However, we thought that it would be better that the committee is chaired by the minister who deals directly with economic issues. Therefore, we have decided to change the two chairmen of the committee, and turned the preparatory committee - as it is not just for making preparations - into a follow-up committee. Therefore, this committee will prepare the agenda and the issues, and follow up their implementation.

One of the important changes is focusing on the role of the private sector. As you have seen, the number of representatives of the private sector was small - I believe that they were more numerous than you [the Saudis] - in the French delegation that came here [as published]. This is encouraging for us because we believe that the private sector is the main mover of economy activity. We would like to see more French companies come to the kingdom not just for trade but for investment as well. I would also like to see the same thing in the other direction. I would like Saudi companies to have partnership for investment in France. Laws that are likely to help them have been revised, and any facilities needed to expand the private sector will be given by the two governments.

Iraq - civil war?

In reply to a question about his highness's vision of the current situation in Iraq which is on the brink of a civil war, and about the implications this situation may have first on Saudi Arabia and secondly on the other Gulf countries, his highness the foreign minister said: I would be more optimistic than this, and I hope that Iraq will find stability. There are those against stability in Iraq. They have their own objectives. These forces must be defeated by the Iraqi people. Until this is done, the situation will remain fragile and critical in Iraq. It is sure that if something happens in Iraq, it will be a catastrophe for the region. This is why we hope that the wisdom of the Iraqi people and its care for its own country will prevail and will be victorious over any other efforts whatever their origin.

"Friendship"

In reply to a question about the friendship between President Chirac and King Abdallah, and whether this relationship will change when President Chirac leaves office following the elections next year in France, his highness said that it is clear that the relationship between the two men is very close. They are very honest and frank partners and friends. So, this is definitely an ideal relationship between two leaders, but they are in charge of their countries as well, and one deals with whoever is chosen to lead a country. As for the personal aspect, we hope that it will remain as strong between President Chirac and the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques. Any French leader will be held in high esteem by the people of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the king and the government, and we will work with him with the same usual honesty. This was reflected in our dealing with the previous governments which were close to us. As for friendship on a personal level, one cannot be sure that this will be strong as it is between the two men [Chirac and Abdallah], but as leaders, they will be as frank and honest with each other, and will work as hard for the benefit of the peoples of the two countries, as these two men do.

Iran

In reply to a question about the position of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia should Iran acquire nuclear weapons, His Highness Prince Sa'ud al-Faisal said that ownership of nuclear weapons will be a dangerous matter. No one likes to see their neighbour in possession of nuclear weapons. However, the Iranian government has assured us that it is not aiming to acquire nuclear weapons. If this is the case, then we are sure that the Iranian government is well aware that it should avoid any suspicious activities that will weaken the credibility of their assurance. We hope that they are convinced of the right nature of making the Middle East, including the Gulf region, free from weapons of mass destruction.

Naturally, as I have said many times before, we can witness double-standards in the issue of nuclear non-proliferation particularly in the Middle East, since people are turning a blind eye to what is happening in Israel, but they are following traditionally firm policies against all the other countries. This has harmed the issue of non-proliferation in the Middle East. We hope that there will be equal treatment in dealing with this matter. The best way to resolve this issue is not to have any weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East. God knows that Israel does not need these weapons, because it is the only country which enjoys security guarantees from almost all the countries, including France. Therefore, we do not see any reason why it needs nuclear weapons when it enjoys all these guarantees for the security of its lands.

King's tour

In reply to a question about the first tour of the Custodian of the two Holy Mosques since he took office when he chose to go neither to its [traditional] partner and ally, the USA, nor to Europe, but went to China and India, and whether there is political significance attached to this, his highness the foreign minister said that it is not a matter of choice. Moreover, we do have long historical ties with the USA. These are very strong ties which are beneficial for the two countries. They will remain as they are and will not change. As for the tour of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques in the Far East, this is not a surprise as we have very important relations with all the countries we visited in Asia. This visit was aimed at entrenching these ties and starting them on grounds of total agreement about what direction we are taking, what we are trying to achieve, and the best way to protect the interests of our respective peoples.

This is why it was not an issue of priorities, since there has not been any change in the priorities. We do not have a world policy, because we are a small country which has interests. In any case, the Asian countries we visited represent half the population of the world. Therefore, this was not a surprise, and there was no hidden agenda behind this tour.

Iranian "playground"

In reply to a question about the current situation in Iraq, and whether Iraq will be for Iran what Lebanon was for Syria over the last thirty years, in other words, whether Iran will be the main power controlling Iraq, and whether Saudi Arabia will accept that, His Highness said that Iraq is not a small country. It is a country that has a history, and which has been there for thousands of years, not centuries. It is a country that has a civilization and history, and I doubt that Iraq will be the playground for any other country, big or small. We hope that the new Iraq will have good and peaceful ties with all its neighbors including Iran. However, these ties cannot be reached through attempts to spread fear, or gain unreasonable favours from another country during its hour of weakness.

I believe that it would be wise for all Iraq's neighbors, be they Iran, or Saudi Arabia or any other neighbor during this period of instability in the country, to show their support for Iraq by not interfering, and by doing the things that will help Iraq's unity and support it in affirming its independence and territorial integrity. Any other policy followed by any of Iraq's neighbors will backfire on the country that will initiate it. Therefore, yes, I am worried about any events in Iraq, God forbid, that may endanger its unity, but I will not be worried if Iraq's neighbors did what will make it the great country we know, and did not turn it into a country that will harm other countries.

Hamas meeting

In reply to a question about the Palestinian issue, whether there is a plan to meet Hamas, and whether there is an agreement with President Chirac to put the three [Israeli] pre-conditions to Hamas: rejecting violence, accepting the 1993 Oslo accords and recognizing Israel, His Highness Sa'ud al-Faisal said that with regard to the first question, yes, we will meet them here in the next few days. As regards the conditions, we do not have any conditions, and we hope that they - as a government - will represent the interests of the Palestinian people. We are waiting to see what kind of leadership they will have for the Palestinian movement. We do not prejudge them, and we do not have pre-conditions for them.

Source: SPA website, Riyadh - March 7, 2006

 

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